Ketamine Therapy

Recovery
#21

I think your cousin did buy off the street then or she had some underlying condition. If she died at her home she wasn’t in the suggested environment you are to have it administered by a health care professional. Not just by yourself at home. Sorry for your loss but it isn’t dangerous unless it’s off the street where it could be laced/you are administering it yourself

#22

She didn’t buy off the street and she was very healthy.

#23

Well something isn’t right then. She shouldn’t have done it alone at her house? I’m not tryna blame her I’m j saying in the correct environment and use there should be no issues. Have a good one.

#24

It’s the safest anesthetic made

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#25

My sponsor does it and swears by it for himself. I can see a huge difference between when he was off K therapy and when he started back up again recently. It can’t hurt to look into it if it’s a good course of treatment for you.

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#26

Well I am glad it’s working for you. Just stay safe and be careful my friend. :pray::pray:

#27

Apparently that’s how Matthew Perry died…. So there’s that

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#28

Ask Mathew Perry how it works.

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#29

I did it. I don’t know if my expectations were too high but it didn’t seem to have any long lasting effect. Of course, I don’t know how I would be if I hadn’t done it…..:man_shrugging:t2:.

#30

If you read the article,
he didn't die from the ketamine infusion therapy treatment. He had his last, 1 week prior to his death and the effects only last up to 4 hours.

He apparently ingested a bunch on his own, passed out, and drowned...

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#31

I don't think your expectations were too high.

Many claim that repeated medically monitored micro-doses over the course of a few months (3-6) should have permanent effects of resolving mental health issues.

#32

Read my reply to David please. What he took on his own and died from was not related to his therapy. Two different things, he abused it and died.

Just like in rehab, they prescribe benzo's to alcoholics in a controlled environment. I was on Librium for a week or so and closely monitored. Ketamine therapy is a closely monitored process.

#33

Upon doing my research, my biggest two concerns about Ketamine therapy are cost and a lack of lasting effects.

In my case, I would do micro-dosing in a controlled environment.

I would never do the self process at home because as an alcoholic, there is the possibility I'd abuse it and become addicted.

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#34

My belief, philosophy, no short cuts to sobriety. Can’t take a drug to get off a drug. Slippery slope every time. Either sober or not.

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#35

So you don't think someone with depression should take anti-depressants?

#36

What? Tell me more

#37

He had levels of ketamine in his blood stream that far exceed therapeutic doses. While he was getting infusions for depression, his last one was a week prior, and the amount in his blood was way too much for therapeutic use.

#38

Okay. That’s an interesting perspective of his passing. Hard to know exactly what is real and what is not these days on the media but this is interesting. Thanks for sharing :slightly_smiling_face:

#39

That's actually straight from the corner's report:

"Toxicology testing reveals ketamine levels at 3540 ng/ml (3.54 microgram/ml or mg/L) in a peripheral blood source, and | 3271 ng/ml (3.27 microgram/ml or mg/L) in a central blood source in Mr. Perry's system. For context, in monitored surgical- anesthesiologic care, levels for general anesthesia are typically in the 1000-6000 ng/ml ranges."
--snip about also finding buprenorphine, lorazepam, and Clonazepam metabolites in the blood--
"He was reported to be receiving ketamine infusion therapy for depression and anxiety. Per the Medical Examiner Investigator’s report, his last known treatment was 1 1/2 weeks prior to death, and the ketamine in his system at death could | not be from that infusion therapy, since ketamine’s half-life is | 3 to 4 hours, or less."

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#40

No shortcuts to sobriety is a far cry from no treatments for other medical problems.

I would not take ketamine as it is a commonly abused drug with well documented addictive effects. But I’ll take Wellbutrin as prescribed. And if that violates anyone’s definition of sobriety then so be it. Other people’s opinions of my sobriety are none of my concern.